Edwin WILLIAMS

Male 1848 - 1924  (76 years)


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  • Name Edwin WILLIAMS 
    Born 7 May 1848  Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Male 
    Baptism 21 May 1848  Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Census 30 Mar 1851  Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Age: 2y 
    Address: Brook Street 
    Census 2 Apr 1871  Chorlton Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Age: 22y 
    Address: Thomson Street, Ardwick, Manchester 
    Census 3 Apr 1881  Glossop, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Age: 32y 
    Address: Higher Dinting 
    Census 1901  Newtown, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    • 8 Erskineville Road. 3 males and 4 females in household.
    Died 9 Oct 1924  Newtown, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Buried 11 Oct 1924  Sydney, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Address: Rookwood Cemetary 
    Person ID I128  Main Tree
    Last Modified 19 Apr 2016 

    Father John WILLIAMS,   b. 6 Mar 1811, Broughton, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Jun 1872, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 61 years) 
    Mother Susannah JONES,   b. 1811, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Jan 1868, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 57 years) 
    Married 3 Oct 1837  Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F9  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Sarah Cross MATHER,   b. 13 Jun 1852, Pilkington, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Jan 1889, Camperdown, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 36 years) 
    Married 19 Oct 1876  Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [10
    • Witness: Frederick Williams
      Witness: Lavinia Wagstaff
    Notes 
    • Witness: Lavnia Wagstaff, born in Glossop in 1853, parents Samuel and Lewina ran the Viaduct Inn (pub).
    Children 
     1. Susannah Sarah WILLIAMS,   b. 16 Aug 1877, Glossop, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Sep 1960, Chatswood, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 83 years)
     2. James Mather WILLIAMS,   b. 20 Aug 1878, Glossop, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Nov 1881  (Age 3 years)
     3. Fanny Cross WILLIAMS,   b. 19 Dec 1879, Glossop, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Nov 1927, North Sydney, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 47 years)
     4. John McKenzie WILLIAMS,   b. 28 Apr 1881, Glossop, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Jul 1962, Mosman, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
     5. Helen Bashall Canton WILLIAMS,   b. 12 Nov 1882, Darlinghurst, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Jun 1962  (Age 79 years)
     6. Llewellyn Edwin WILLIAMS,   b. 14 Dec 1884, Newtown, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Mar 1967, Townsville, QLD, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years)
     7. Lizzie Winifred WILLIAMS,   b. 11 Sep 1886, Newtown, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Sep 1966, Cremorne, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
     8. Mary Annie WILLIAMS,   b. 14 Nov 1888, Newtown, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Dec 1888  (Age 0 years)
    Last Modified 26 Oct 2015 
    Family ID F5  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 7 May 1848 - Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBaptism - 21 May 1848 - Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 2y - 30 Mar 1851 - Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 22y - 2 Apr 1871 - Chorlton Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 19 Oct 1876 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 32y - 3 Apr 1881 - Glossop, Derbyshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1901 - Newtown, NSW, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 9 Oct 1924 - Newtown, NSW, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - Address: Rookwood Cemetary - 11 Oct 1924 - Sydney, NSW, Australia Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • 1848 BIRTH: 7 May 1848 at Brookside, Wrexham
      Father: John Williams, Stone Mason
      Mother: Susannah Williams formerly Jones.
      1904:31 December 1904, The Sydney Morning Herald, Page 12
      Mr. Edwin Williams has had made in Sydney a stained-glass window, which is to be erected in Dinting Anglican Church, near Manchester, England. The window is executed in antique glass, and is rich and harmonious in colouring. The inscription at the bottom of the window is as follows: - These windows were erected by Edwin Williams to the glory of God and to the beloved memory of James Mather, of Dinting, and Sarah Mather Williams, his daughter, who died in Australia.
      See http://holytrinitydintingvale.wordpress.com/
      1907: The Cyclopedia of New South Wales (1907), page 430/431
      Mr. Edwin Williams, whose repute as an Architect is limited to no local boundaries, is the son of John and Susannah Williams, nee Jones, and, it seems is almost uneccesary to add, is of Welsh descent. His life's story is brief and bright - a procession of success. Born on May 7th, 1848 at Wrexham - a township in North Wales, reeking, one may say, with historic associations, carrying the mind back to those days when the Ap Williams were able to harness the thanes of Mercia at their own sweet will - he was educated in the leading schools within the gates of his birthplace. At fourteen he made his first essay to shoulder the burdens of existence, when he commenced to work for his father; whose avocation was that of a builder and contractor. Three years later young Williams determined to face the world on his own account. Liverpool and London were visited in turn; then heigho! for the marvellous East; the land of pactolean streams to those who have never been there. Finding by the test of experience its repute more fable than otherwise, the young traveller returned home, striking the English Cottonoplis in 1868; and for several years did some good work in the northern counties, superintending, amongst other buildings, the erection of the John Barnes Convalescent Hospital, Chadle Chistine, St Paul's Church, Heaton Moore, and Holy Trinity Church, Dinting Vale. In 1882 Mr. Williams left for Australia. Upon arrival in New South Wales he was engaged by Mr. John Young to take charge of the erection of the first portion of the Australian Joint Stock Bank, King and George Streets, Sydney. During the erection of the second portion of this building he was clerk of works; and for nine years he held a similar position in the office of those eminent architects - Messrs. Sulman and Power. During this period, amongst other buildings supervised were the Mutual Life Association's building, Wynyard Street; the Presbyterian churches at Randwick, Woolahra and Manly; the Thomas Walker Convalescent Hospital, Concord and St. Ann's, Church of England, Strathfield. In 1896, Mr. Williams commenced practice on his own account. From that time to December, 1905, he was architect for the Australian Joint Stock Bank; carrying out a large amount of work in various portions of the country. He was one of the Founders of the Newtown United Friendly Sociteties' Dispensary (1887), holding the secretaryship since its inauguration. He was also the architect for the new headquarters of this useful institution; the foundation of which was laid by his Excellency Admiral Sir H. H. Rawson, K.C.B., on September 27, 1902. Whilst residing at Manchester Mr. Williams, on October 19th 1876, married Miss Sarah Mather, of that city.
      1924 DEATH: 9 October 1924 at 8 Erskinville Road, Newtown.
      Occupation: Architect
      Sex and age: Male, 76 years.
      Name and occupation of father: John Williams, Building Contractor.
      Name and maiden surname of mother: Mary Jones.
      When and where buried: 11 October 1924, Church of England Cemetary, Rookwood.
      Where born and how long in Australia: from Wrexham, North Wales and 45 years in NSW.
      Place of marriage, age and to whom: Manchester, England, 28 years, Sarah Mather Cross.
      Children of marriage: Susannah 44, Fanny C. 43, John M. 42, Helen B.C 40, Llewllyn E. 38, Lizzie M. 36 living. 1 male and 1 female deceased.
      1924 OBITUARY: 18 October 1924, The Sydney Morning Herald Page 12
      The death occurred recently of Mr. Edwin Williams, supervising architect for the Australian Bank of Commerce, at his home at Newtown, at the age of 76 years.
      Mr. Williams, who was born in North Wales, came to Australia in 1882 and later commenced the practice of his profession on his own account. He was one of the founders of the Newtown United Friendly Societies' dispensary, of which he had been secretary from its establishment 37 year ago.
      Mrs. Williams died 35 years ago. He has left 2 sons - Mr. Llewllyn Edwin Williams of New Zealand, and Mr. John McKenzie Williams, of the Education Department - and four daughters - Mrs. C.A. Eastway, Mrs A. Eastway, Mrs G.L. Catchlove, and Miss Williams.
      The funeral took place at Rookwood.



      Edwin is listed in the Sands Directory for Newtown, Sydney from 1885 when he is listed as a stone mason. In 1900 his profession in the directory changes to architect. In 1911 he acquires the Justice of the Peace designation, and in 1916 he acquires the Magnetic Water Level Co. Ltd.
    • Funeral notices published in the Sydney Morning Herald on Friday, October 10, 1924:
      WILLIAMS - The friends of the late EDWIN WILLIAMS are invited to attend his Funeral: to leave his late residence, Ardwick, 8 Erskinville-road, Newtown, TO-MORROW, SATURDAY, at 1:45, for Newtown Station, thence to Church of England Cemetary. T.J. Andrews, Funeral Director.
      WILLIAMS - The Officers and Members of Newtown United Friendly Society are invited to attend the Funeral of their late Secretary, E. WILLIAMS; to leave 8 Erskinville-road, Newtown, TO-MORROW, SATURDAY, at 1:45, for Church of England Cemetary, Rookwood. ; P.H. LOVERING, President, W.H. ATWELL, Treasurer, T.J. ANDREWS, Funeral Director.
      Obituary published in the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday, October 18, 1924: "Mr E. Williams. The death occurred recently of Mr Edwin Williams, supervising architect for the Australian Bank of Commerce, at his home at Newtown, at the age of 76 years.
      Mr. Williams, who was born in North Wales, came to Australia in 1882 and later commenced the practice of his profession on his own account. He was one of the founders of the Newtown United Friendly Societies' dispensary, of which he had been secretary from its establishment 37 years ago.
      Mrs. Williams died 35 years ago. He has left two sons - Mr. Llewellyn Edwin Williams, of New Zealand, and Mr John McKenzie Williams, of the Education Department - and four daughters - Mrs. C. A. Eastway, Mrs. A. Eastway, Mrs G.L. Catchlove and Miss Williams.
      The funeral took place at Rookwood.
    • The Holy Trinity Church of Dinting Vale owes its origins to the Wood family through whose generosity the Church was built. It is a stone building in the thirteenth century Gothic style and has an octagonal spire 137 feet high, the nave is 74 feet long, 26½ feet wide and 49 feet high to the apex of the roof. The north and south aisles respectively measure 74 feet long by 8¼ feet wide and 20 feet high with the chancel arch standing 34½ feet high. The designers and architects were Mills and Murgatroyd of Manchester and the contractor Mr. Southern of Manchester. The stone used was partly from Lees Hall Quarry, Glossop and partly from Scaithwaite. The cost was approximately £6,500.

      The foundation stone (is there one in evidence anywhere?) was laid in 1873 and the progress of the building may be followed in the dates marked on ventilation grids set higher and higher in the West wall. Consecration of the Church was conducted by Bishop Selwyn, Bishop of Lichfield (of which Diocese Glossop was then part) on July 31st 1875 and regular services started the following day. For anyone interested, this link gives a very detailed guide to the church.
    • Research Military Details for Edwin Williams

      What do we want to know: When did Edwin join up and where did he serve
      Where will we look: Muster roll and pay list for his regiment at The National Archives, Kew
      What do we know already: We know his service number: 1360
      We know the name of his regiment and batalltion: 2nd Battalion Rifle Brigade
      We know he left the army after his mother's death in Jan 1868

      According the to Catalogue at TNA the information we want to look at is in the followng

  • Sources 
    1. [S12] England and Wales Birth Certificate, England and Wales. Registrar General., birth certificate for Edwin Williams, born 7 May 1848; citing /342, Jun quarter 1848, Denbighshire registration district, Wrexham sub-district.

    2. [S101] Census 1851 Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales HO107 2503 538 6 (John Williams), (HO107 2503 538 6) (Reliability: 2), 18 May 2013.

    3. [S162] Family Register - Mather/Williams, 27 Sep 2013.
      Edwin Williams. Son-in-law of the above (James Mather). Born may 7th 1848.

    4. [S181] Baptism Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales 21 May 1848 Edwin Williams, (Page 252) (Reliability: 2), 6 Mar 2014.

    5. [S102] Census 1871 Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire RG10/3976/71/26/9 (John Williams), (RG10/3976/71/26/9) (Reliability: 2), 18 May 2013.

    6. [S214] Census 1881 Glossop, Derbyshire, England RG11/3461/14/21 (Edwin Williams), (RG11 3461 14 21) (Reliability: 2), 1 Jun 2014.

    7. [S193] Census 1901 Newtown, NSW, Australia 86 Cumberland, Newtown, Newtown (Edwin Williams), (1901 New South Wales, Australia Census), household No: 121.

    8. [S212] Death Newtown, NSW, Australia 9 Oct 1924 Edwin Williams, (1924/017089).

    9. [S217] Burial Rookwood Cemetary, Sydney, NSW, Australia 11 Oct 1924 Edwin Williams.

    10. [S179] Marriage Manchester, Lancashire, England (St Mary's Church) 19 Oct 1876 Edwin Williams & Sarah Cross Mather, (8d/360/248).



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